Piffin | Aug 26, 2007 08:11pm | #1
I always used to figure 2#/square, but have just gone to using a coil gun last year so I don't know how that works out...
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brownbagg | Aug 26, 2007 08:20pm | #3
aint it 5 nails per shingle.Haga su trabajo de fricken
Oak River Mike | Aug 26, 2007 08:24pm | #4
6 nails per shingle in high wind areas. I guess you could just multiply that by the number of shingles in a bundle then by three bundles per square then by the number of squares.
OR....
If using a coil gun buy two boxes at around $24. each and I bet that covers most standard size homes.
Piffin | Aug 26, 2007 08:29pm | #5
four five or six, depending...and when figuring at pounds, it makes a diff whether you use 1" or 1-1/2" nails too
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scrumseeker | Aug 26, 2007 11:46pm | #6
Just out of curiosity, what did you use before that?
Hand nailing or subcontractors.
Piffin | Aug 26, 2007 11:55pm | #7
fingering and a roof hatchet
I was a roofing sub for twenty years.When I went to remo work I gave that up unless part of the whole job and the bigger ones I sub out, but some smaller additions, like my current 6-7 squares, it is hard to interest a sub to come out to this island for. so I bought the gun. Makes it easier for an old man like me.Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!
dieselpig | Aug 26, 2007 08:16pm | #2
I'm a framer by trade, not a roofer. I just do roofing for fun
LOL... that one cracked me up bro.
catfish | Aug 27, 2007 12:05am | #8
about 15 squares per box in this 6 nail area
Shep | Aug 27, 2007 02:08am | #9
"I just do roofing for fun"
there's something wrong with you framing guys <G>
JeffBuck | Aug 27, 2007 08:05am | #10
gotta be the heat what makes them talk crazy like that ...
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MikeSmith | Aug 27, 2007 01:40pm | #11
4 nails or 6 ?
5" ... 8" .... or 10" exposure ?
300 - 400 /sq @ 5"
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purplerays | Aug 30, 2007 03:29am | #12
Hey Mike, and everyone else,
Thanks for all your help, and good answers.
G80104 | Aug 30, 2007 04:10am | #13
Four coils per square, the last nail on the coil never shoots.
restorationday | Aug 30, 2007 06:03am | #14
the last nail always shoots and I nail off fast enough that sometimes I make 2 or 3 nails past that before I realize I have to go back. Pisses me off every time.
I forget, are there any guns out there with exposed coil cases that I can see the coil. I got bostich nowStilletto | Aug 30, 2007 12:30pm | #17
The new Bostitch has a dry fire lock out. When you are out of nails the nose won't engage. So you won't ever wonder if you are out again.
I don't like it, it jacks my rhythm up. For lack of a better term. I can tell by the sound of my gun that I am almost out, then totally out. I use a Paslode.
Matt
restorationday | Aug 31, 2007 01:54am | #20
It jacks my rhythm up when I run out of nails a keep going and have to go back but I can see what you mean.I'll look at that new bostitch but that is a whole 'nother thread.
Piffin | Sep 01, 2007 08:05pm | #25
I have that one. I can see the coil but not the last 8-9 naills
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RedfordHenry | Sep 02, 2007 04:50am | #28
I have a Makita siding trim nailer with a clear coil cover. I know exactly when the last nail is coming. I love that gun. Not sure if they make a roofing gun.
IMERC | Aug 30, 2007 06:22am | #15
watching discovery channel...
average double wide takes 450 pounds of nails, screws and other hardware...
and....
more than 500 pounds of construction adhesive...
porpotions don't seem right.....Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
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Piffin | Aug 30, 2007 01:53pm | #18
"porpotions don't seem right....."That's for sure!
IMERC watching TV!!!!The world is off kilter!;)Seriously, that does seem like alot of adhesive, unless they areincluding things like thinset, and all the adhesive built into the plywood and into I-joists, etc. that we never handle directlyWelcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!
IMERC | Aug 30, 2007 08:44pm | #19
wonders will never cease....
they were referring f to construction adhesive...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
BillBrennen | Sep 02, 2007 01:36am | #27
Manufactured homes use glue to keep things together while the "box" is being moved. So they use it in lots of places where we would not use it on a site-built home. Also, since the wood materials are so small on manuf'd homes, there are likely fewer/smaller nails. I recall reading in FHB many years ago that a typical new frame house has ~1500 pounds of nails. It seemed a bit high to me, but I never kept track on my one new frame house, either.Bill
G80104 | Sep 01, 2007 06:38am | #21
Did the count tonight, 120 nails per coil. 5 nails per shingle = 24 shingles, Six nails =20. If I remember, I think the OC 30 year have 26? shingles per bundle.
Guess this would be a good question for BT Jeopardy ?
IMERC | Sep 01, 2007 06:49am | #22
33 shingles per bundle for the 3 bundle square....
120 nails per coil...
5 nails per shingle...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
G80104 | Sep 01, 2007 07:27am | #23
Alex, what is , 22 shingles per bundle 66 per square. 5.45 nails per coil per bundle. 5 5/8" to the wind.
IMERC | Sep 01, 2007 08:34am | #24
must be the brand....
went and counted a bundle...
five and a quarter to the wind at 33 per bundle... GAF...
yurs are OC IIRC...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Stilletto | Aug 30, 2007 12:26pm | #16
One coil per bundle. Thats 4 nails a shingle and the occasional 5th nail.
I buy a box per 20 sq of shingles. You might end up with a few extra coils with that figuring. Just depends on how much drip edge and starter strip you have to shoot on. I haven't gone wrong with that number yet.
Matt
JonBlakemore | Sep 01, 2007 10:20pm | #26
I always figure 350 coil nails for a square of 3 tab or standard architectural shingles. No high winds here to contend with so we use four nails per shingle.