Can i shoot 2 3/4 shells in 3 inch chamber

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Question:
Concerning a .410-gauge shotgun. If the barrel is stamped 3" Can you shoot 2 1/2-inch ammo, or can you only use 3 inch ?
- Roger Harmon

The Gun Guy:
Yes. You can shoot 2 1/2 inch or 3 inch shells in your .410 shotgun, unless it is an autoloader such as a Remington Model 1100 made for 3 inch shells only.

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Dear Technoid,

Is it damaging to the shotgun to shoot 2 3/4 in shells in a 3 in chamber? Are the patterns adversely affected?

Bob

Dear Bob,

I’ll touch on it again while there is still a little coffee left in the cup. Those of you who have copies of my old response can compare the two and see where I’ve 1) screwed up, 2) changed my mind or 3) forgotten stuff.

As to question 1, is shooting a 2-3/4″ shell in a 3″ chamber damaging? Nope. Not at all. If it is Beretta is sure in trouble as just about all their target guns, meant for 2-3/4″ shells, have 3″chambers. Of course, going the other way and shooting 3″ shells in 2-3/4″chambers is baaaad. Don’t do that. But you knew that.

But the second question is the big one. Are patterns adversely affected? Maybe yes. Maybe no. As I said above, Beretta uses 3″ chambers in just about all their target guns. Berettas win a lot of stuff. No one has ever accused Berettas of having basically inferior patterns. Then again, Beretta’s high end SO series run 2-3/4″ chambers in target guns. How about that for indecision.

Krieghoff also has tended to use 3″ chambers and also long forcing cones in their respected K80 series, though they use short chambers/short cones in their high end Ulm O/Us. Just like Beretta, they can’t decide, but the high end stuff gets the short chambers.

Perazzi has pretty much stuck to 2-3/4″ chambers for their target guns.

Browning Japan and Browning Belgium generally stick to 2-3/4″ chambers for their target guns. They actually give a reason for doing this. An old Browning FAQ spreadsheet showed pattern degradation when shooting a 2-3/4″ shell in a 3″ chamber. At least that is the official Browning take on it.

One of these days I’ll suppose I’ll actually have to test it and come up with my own conclusions. Until then, I’ll take the manufacturers’ word for it. But which one?

Best regards,

Bruce Buck
The Technoid writing for Shotgun Report, LLC
(Often in error. Never in doubt.)

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Can i shoot 2 3/4 shells in 3 inch chamber

If this is something you’re asking, you’re about to save money and open up your ammo selection.

A shotgun with a 3-inch chamber will work flawlessly with both 3-inch and 2 ¾-inch shotshells. You can shoot a shorter shell, but cannot shoot a shell longer than your chamber is marked for.

Can i shoot 2 3/4 shells in 3 inch chamber

Why don’t 2 ¾ inch shells jam in a 3-inch chamber?


   Because a 2 ¾ shell is shorter, it’s definitely going to fit into the chamber of a shotgun.  Since all 12 gauge shot shells are the same outer diameter, it will slide in and seat perfectly in the chamber.  It’s shorter, but it’s not so short that it will fail to feed from the magazine. 

      2 ¾ inch shells are still long enough that they will stay in the right orientation in the magwell and feed properly.  If you try the 1 ¾ inch mini shotshells, they will actually turn halfway around and get stuck. Not the 2 ¾.
 

  If you have a break action, pump action, or bolt action shotgun with a 3-inch chamber, the 2 ¾ will cycle and fire exactly as the 3 inch will.  If you have a semi auto, you may need to adjust the recoil.  Some semi autos have a different setting to cycle the shorter, lighter loads.

   Since the metal rim is the same size, the bolt face will still grab and hold the shot shell properly as it is fed into the chamber. The ejection system will work without a hitch too.  The shell will be pulled out of the chamber and go flying just like normal.

Is it safe to fire 2 ¾ inch shells in a 3 inch chamber?


   There are no special safety concerns when shooting a 2 ¾ shot shell in a 3-inch shotgun chamber.  Since the shot shell is inserted into the chamber right up to the rim, or seated on the rim, the entire shell is supported by the bolt face and chamber.  The shell could be only ¼ inch and if you put it in the chamber and close it, it will fire safely. 

The pressure is lower in a 2 ¾ inch shell than in a 3-inch There is nothing about the 2 ¾ inch design that could cause an over-pressure issue in a larger chamber. It is well within safe operating standards. You don’t have to worry about the firing as the bolt is being closed (slam firing). </p><h2><strong>How many 2 ¾ inch shells will my 3 inch shotgun hold?</strong></h2><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; So, you can safely and flawlessly fire 2 ¾ inch shells in a shotgun with a 3-inch chamber.&nbsp; That’s great news.&nbsp; Besides now having a larger selection of ammunition you can fit more shot shells in a tubular magazine, right?&nbsp; Well, not exactly.<br></p><p><span id="ezoic-pub-ad-placeholder-117" class="ezoic-adpicker-ad"></span>&nbsp;&nbsp; Most shotguns have a tubular magazine instead of a box magazine like most rifles do.&nbsp; The capacity in a tube is only restricted by the length of the shell. If you put in a shorter shell in, you have a bit more capacity, in theory.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Most shotguns with a 3-inch chamber hold 6 shells in the magazine.&nbsp; Unfortunately, that same magazine will also hold only 6 of the shorter shells. In fact, in order to hold one extra shell, a 3-inch chambered shotgun will need a standard capacity of ten, 3-inch shells.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Now if you just did the math in your head, that probably doesn’t make sense.&nbsp; Ten 3-inch shot shells requires a 30 inches magazine. 30 inches will not quite fit 11 2 ¾ inch shells. 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There is also usually a bigger selection on store shelves in the 2 ¾.<br></p><p><span id="ezoic-pub-ad-placeholder-119" class="ezoic-adpicker-ad"></span><span class="ezoic-ad ezoic-at-0 leader-2 leader-2119 adtester-container adtester-container-119" data-ez-name="guntradition_com-leader-2"><span id="div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-2-0" ezaw="336" ezah="280" style="position:relative;z-index:0;display:inline-block;padding:0;width:100%;max-width:1200px;margin-left:auto !important;margin-right:auto!important;min-height:280px;min-width:336px" class="ezoic-ad"><script data-ezscrex="false" data-cfasync="false" style="display:none">if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'guntradition_com-leader-2','ezslot_4',119,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-leader-2-0'); &amp;nbsp; So now you know.&amp;nbsp; If you see a shell you like in 2 ¾ and your shotgun says 3 inches, don’t worry about using it.&amp;nbsp; shooters have been doing this for half a century, and gun manufacturers have taken it into account with their designs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="share-container"&gt;&lt;hr&gt;&lt;div class="facebook-container"&gt;&lt;iframe data-ezsrc="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/share_button.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fguntradition.com%2Fcan-you-shoot-2-3-4-inch-shot-shells-in-a-3-inch-chamber%2F&amp;layout=button&amp;size=large&amp;mobile_iframe=true&amp;appId=179285788793206&amp;width=73&amp;height=28" width="73" height="28" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" allow="encrypted-media" class="ezlazyload"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="pinterest-container"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" data-pin-do="buttonBookmark" data-pin-tall="true" href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/button/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;script async defer src="https://guntradition.com/ezossp/unknown/assets.pinterest.com/js/pinit.js?screx=1&amp;sxcb=1a" type="text/ez-screx"&gt;</p><div class="linkedin-container"><script src="https://guntradition.com/ezossp/https/platform.linkedin.com/in.js?screx=1&sxcb=1a" type="text/ez-screx">lang:en_US

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